BrainThingy: Has It Lost It’s Mind
Okay, let’s review the new BrainThingy.com site. It is pretty simple.
You pay $5 – one-time.
For this you get two things (thingys?) – you get products, and a referral link.
Your referral link is to send out so people can click on it and visit the website.
If they sign up you get a commission.
If they then use their referral link to sign people up themselves, you get a commission on those referrals as well, and so on down a number of levels.
And that’s where we come to the big claim.
According to the Brainthingy website:
“You can make $32,058.60 just by referring people.”
Cool eh?
Er, no.
Is BrainThingy Legal?
Well, let’s ask Brainthingy’s own FAQ. Not a final source, but a great place to review for scam hints and details.
Their site says,
“Yes, BrainThingy is 100% legal. In return for your investment, you are given access to the list of scripts and e-books indside our membership section.
Any program that provides a product of any kind is legal.”
Actually that final sentence is not quite true.
A more complete description would be that the product has to actually be worth the price.
So the key part of any Brain Thingy review is, are their products worth $5?
And here is the best bit. They don’t even try to convince you they are worth $5. They just say you will get “very valuable and informative stuff worth $500+.”
Of course, almost anything could reasonably be worth $5 to someone so it’s not a difficult barrier. But incredibly, their product is “membership access” to scripts and marketing e-books, but nowhere on the site do they tell you what’s in them [*See update below].
What this means is that people who join, but do not make any money have paid $5 for the ‘products’ sight-unseen!!! *
And as much as they may claim otherwise, the probability is that the MAJORITY of people will spend $5 and end up making $0 in commissions.
Brainthingy is ALL about the commissions and making money by referrals, and nothing to do with the product.
This means that in reality, if not technically, a low-cost pyramid scheme is the best label for this “Brainthingy scam“.
How Can Authorities Allow Something Like BrainThingy?
Basically because they can’t police this stuff fast enough, it’s too small an amount of money for any one person to fight for, and it’s happening so often that it would just tie up resources to chase each one.
Anyway, these sites collapse all by themselves. They die faster than the authorities can get to them.
The initial buyers have made their one time purchase, the buzz starts to turn negative, later visitors tend to be more sceptical ones anyway, so the sign-ups slow, the money dries up, then the promoters see they have tapped out the market so they take their money (because yes it is true they do make money doing this, and often they actually get paid their commissions too) and they stop promoting, and go onto their next deal.
My blog is about being Careful with your Cash, but it’s also about being careful with something even more important – your reputation!
$5 is $5, but consider where your next $5 is coming from. It’s coming from real human beings, just like you.
I’m a medical doctor, and at my other main site, I teach businesses about word of mouth marketing. So I understand reputation.
Success comes from delivering value to those human beings, consistently.
If you want to learn more about doing proven marketing that gives you lasting success, then sign-up to my list from the link below – and drop me a note.
“Internet Marketing Lead Generation System”
* BrainThingy Update: the site has been changed to explain their products a bit more on the front page. ie
So for $5, I suppose that would be enough of a sales letter to make it technically legit. I don’t know. I didn’t buy it to find out.
But this addition brings up an interesting marketing point…
How BrainThingy could earn you not $32,058.60 just by referring 3 people !!!, but $62,117.20!
…but it won’t.
How could Brainthingy double your earnings?
Simple. By doubling their price!
And heck, being able to “Make You An Internet Marketing Pro In No Time!” is surely worth $500, let alone a mere $5 X 2 = $10, isn’t it?
But Brain Thingy chose to go for a price of $5 so people will just buy on hope, whether or not the product is any good. They won’t think twice about not having any money-back guarantee etc etc.
At $5, your referrals earn $2, 50c, 25c, 10c and 5c. One-time.
Woo-hoo.
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Comments on BrainThingy: Has It Lost It’s Mind
Discouraging people from joining our program all based on your personal failure to be successful in similar programs is not only ignorant but also misleading. You have no experience with our program to make these allegations. Its sad because if you were a member you’d be singing a different tune. Sir you are clueless.
So go ahead and make your false claims that are not based on our actual site statistics. Numbers don’t lie. We payout substantial amounts daily. We are changing lives. It’s an easy sale that anyone can do over and over again with a generous commission in comparison to other similar programs. These are the facts and our members are enjoying these benefits. I know this comment will be deleted or never approved but I’m OK with that as I know you’ve read this
. Have a Great Day!
@Lee:
I’m sorry Lee – why would I delete this comment?
Yes you insulted me, but I’m sure readers can make up their own minds and see if what you say encourages them to join. It’s still a free world.
I’ve even pointed out that you have improved the sales page by adding the graphic samples of the products. That helps.
I’m not sure what ‘allegations’ you think I would would change if I were a member? Do you mean that I would find the products worth $5. Maybe I would. I don’t know, and I said as much.
Yes, I would certainly like to see your ‘ actual site statistics’ so that we can all judge. In particular the one that shows the percentage of people who have joined and been paid commissions. That would be useful information.
I’m glad you are paying out commissions. I didn’t say you wouldn’t. Payment is nice but not enough. Bernie Madoff paid out for years.
Finally I’m not sure what you are comparing to that makes your program generous. There are many online products that anyone can sell for $5 where you get 100% commission, and BrainThingy would need quite a bit of downline activity to do better than that.
So why are people buying BrainThingy and not those other items?
Well because BrainThingy doesn’t sell BrainThingy – it sells the $32k commission dream.
It’s simple mathematics sir. It works. Many people are making money. I just don’t know what you have to gain by bad mouthing our program besides the obvious of trying to promote your own. That speaks volumes for your character “Doc”. Sadly if you have taken a different approach and took the time to get to know us before blabbing loose opinionated assumptions this may have turned out differently. As I stated earlier “Numbers Don’t Lie”.
Have a great day!
Please give me the numbers then like any other MLM would be required to do.
What percentage of your members earn a commission, and what percentage earn more than their $5 back.
Please also point out what I have said that is incorrect.
I have given you a platform for promoting your site and putting your case. I’m sure it will INCREASE your conversions if you do a good job.
ALL I can say is I am a member of Brain Thingy and I have made 2 referals already without even trying . Also $5.00 is not a lot to risk . I have confidence in the program and I will keep at it Thanks.( crashotto) oh I have down loaded several of the books and they are loaded with great information,the ones I have read so far. You just have to work at advertising the site rather than critisize it. That what it is all about! Every other site I tried just took my money and all I got was a lesson about TRUSTING NO ONE except for a chosen few who are HONEST and very helpfull. Espescialy TWO people I have met on the net they are all HEART AND HONOR in my book. T. & D.
“I have down loaded several of the books and they are loaded with great information,the ones I have read so far. ”
That is nice to know. Thanks, and all the best David. Tell me where those other sites are and I might review them too.
(P.S. I have left your affiliate link live for you.)
Interesting review. i have been in brain thingy for a total of 6 days and not advertised yet but already been paid $6 to my alertpay. So I am in profit. I looked today and have another 50 cents and 2 below me from spillover. So if the whole program crashes I still made profit and it is in my bank. I have been “smoked” by programs of $1000 plus dollars and never made a penny, but I think with the products provided and as i stated even if it shuts down I have the products and a profit so seems ok to me.
thanks
Quote: “I have been “smoked” by programs of $1000 plus dollars and never made a penny”
Hi Charles,
Sorry to hear of your experience. That sucks.
One way to be safer is to only spend $5. That’s for sure.
I’d be interested to hear from the 3 people you signed up, and the 2+ people as well. For your $6.50 it cost at least $25 from others. Not thousands, but it does add up as they say.
For instance, if someone actually created the $32,058.60 profit as per BrainThingy’s demo matrix, then they will have 90759 people under them. In total those people just spent $453,795.00. That is 450x what you got pissed off about, just spread more thinly.
And remember that in that structure the last layer ie 59049 (x$5=$295,245.00) are earning ZERO dollars in commissions (unless of course they get their own $32k and repeat the ‘ideal’ matrix.)
This is all theoretical of course, and so I’m waiting for Lee to come back here and give me the real insider numbers.
@Martin Russell:
Hi Martin
Yeah when i get torched on high cost programs i was just starting out online a few years ago.I am not looking at hitting the 32k anytime soon, but I was only commenting that already in profit so anything else in earnings is a bonus. Never hurts to make a few dollars here and there:)
@charles:
“Never hurts to make a few dollars here and there.”
Hmm.
I recommend creating delighted customers so you get long-term buying relationships. It has been more profitable for me to use this style of “attraction marketing“.
I suspect there is a way to do this with Brain Thingy (see David’s comment on the e-books above), just not the way the company is currently promoting itself.
You can look thru sales copy of any program MLSP included and find claims that 95 or more% of the people can’t duplicate ……. AND the cost of failing on programs like MLSP can be Very very expensive ……. Brainthingy is a very good place for people to start to learn marketing on a very low budget ……. unlike MLSP …… and with all the crap out there …….. NOT EVEN DR MARTIN could posit the belief that any ebooks couldn’t be worth $5 …….
IT’S WORTH WHAT PEOPLE PAY FOR IT ……. A NEWBIE MARKETING PLATFORM ….. though I agree that they don’t market it so effectively ……
Hi James – I agree that $5 makes it a very low hurdle, but my problem was they barely tried to jump it anyway. So I think you and I agree.
MLSP is a good comparison example. MLSP is NOT at core make-money reseller system – even though that is how it is often (mistakenly) promoted. It is a membership site for internet marketing training, and quality IM training still has real value well worth the price they are asking. Visit http://word.mlsp.com/intro and you will see how the owners themselves explain the value of the MLSP product, and how they handle the MLSP commissions for referrals. The ’95% don’t duplicate’ is properly understood here. These people PROVE they know what MLM is about at its best.
MLSP ‘gets’ it. Brainthingy doesn’t. Chalk and cheese.
Well, all of the comments were very informative! I was very interested to learn about Brain Thingy and to read such strong opposing views and hear both sides was a real treat.
Thank you. Now I will probably be inclined to sit on the fence. I do not practice network marketing but I can imagine it could be a useful way to alleviate global poverty. I was involved in a neighbourhood intiative many years ago where we all put a small amount of money into a pool once a fortnight. One person from our group received the whole amount, then it was the next persons turn and so on. This enabled the person to have a larger, more significant some of money to achieve greater consumer options than their few dollars would allow them. It was networking without the market label. I don’t belive in pyramid selling but believe in the power of networking. I’ve also managed community services and leveraged the power of networking to gain growth for our services. What is the difference- really? Why would people be upset if all they do is pass on a link to others and others pass on the link and they receive information where they may learn something anyway. Why would they be upset? Most people paying the $5 will no doubt be paying $5 to buy an ebook anyway-as you do when you are learning and want to know the next best thing which is promising to help you get on the way.
@GreenHollows: I think the type of networking and community help you are describing is more like when the Amish spend a day all putting up a barn for one of the group. It’s useful and it’s reciprocated.
In Brainthingy you won’t get to take turns. The person you sold to won’t buy anything from you in future. Your money is gone and you hope the e-book is worth the value. That’s the difference.
At $5 this is about learning the principles.
If anyone is still uncertain about the principles, then this post here can cut to the core: What is MLM Really?
I have noticed that no matter the program, those in profit and those who are not, they’re always a person who comes along and claims it to be negative even after a ton of positive. It never fails, and it also never fails that the person who presents the negative always invites you to another site where things are honky-dory, and once there, after a while, another comes along with a negative and the chain goes on and on ( it has been so for the 4 years that I have tried programs ). I am not arguing the point as to who’s right or wrong but simply
saying that…that is the way it has been.
I do reviews or rather read reviews on Warrior Forum about clickbank software, and those guys have a 90% to 10% ratio saying that the software is bad. The last time I ignored it,because after seeing the program and using the program I liked enough of what I saw to think it worth it. finally after a lot of negative, one user who was using it shed a new light on the system, to say that it actually worked. granted you had to be very attentive during the videos to grasp key points or you would miss them, but aside from not a perfect presentation, it could very well be a perfect program. i am happy with it.
I am also a member of brainthingy and I am willing to give it a go for the price, and for that alone I don’t mind. But to say without trying something to learn from the efforts or whatever you may call it at such a low price would be more foolish to me to sit it out.
So many scams and so many people crabbing on the back of other programs, with the “it’s a scam” presentatation, so come over here and let me scam you for a larger sum, well after a while that gets tiring, and it is quite obvious that those lines. about a program being a scam has made many people wealthy, when in fact the engine that moves their program is the twin of the one they claim scams. I will never join another program if it is presented to me like that. If I join, then it is because I looked it over and made my decision, but not because of that refried,refried,refried,refried,refried (to infinity) statement about it being a scam and that I have found this program after leaving that one and here’s the link hahaha,
he he he…it has pathetically been used far to many times.
@kenny reigh: Okay, I’ve removed the alternative suggestion at the bottom of the post. Now you are free to make a clean review of my information about Brainthingy, and how it compares to your experience as a member. Look forward to what you have to say.